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Recently I have been trying some low light level pano's in darkened rooms without a great deal of success, due to stability and length of exposures (tripods nor lighting allowed!).

I have increased the aperture from f8 to f6.3-f5 (Depth of focus isn't such a problem with rooms),
increased the ISO but noise starts to be a problem if you go to far,
so I am left with trying to increase the stability of the Monopod.

I've looked at the Duopod solution, but I wonder just how much improvement is possible ?

Has anyone tried such a method, or found other solutions ?
What sort of exposure times can you achieve ?

Ideally I would like to get to the point where a bracketed set of shots are possible but I think that's going to demand use of the tripod!

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depending on your camera, you could crank up the ISO... I routinely shoot at ISO 5000 with my 5Dm2 and remove most of the noise in ACR 6.1, that in combination with a fisheye at f5.6 may give you a manageable exposure time? – Joergen Geerds Jun 29 at 15:21
Thanks all for comments I will be trying out the various settings and software ideas and will feedback as and when I have results. First steps will be to to try to stabilise the Monopod by using a mini tripod as suggested by a friend who saw the question, it was initially seen on the Nodal Ninja forum nodalninja.com/forum/index.php/topic,1306.0.html and the prices in the UK seem sensible amazon.co.uk/Velbon-V20967-Ultra-Maxi-Mini/dp/… so awaiting its delivery, and hope that the "tripod" is only seen as a large foot by those who are saying no tripods ;-) – Geoff Jul 5 at 10:55

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you could take many shots and average them, this would reduce noise.

also you should try this - http://www.guillermoluijk.com/article/virtualraw/index_en.htm

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Thanks Jeff - Now I've done multi- exposures for night time star work so why didn't I think of that myself!! The article is also very interesting - I'm out tomorrow travelling for a while so will digest the idea while away. Any other solutions and any experience of increasing stability will be welcomed. – Geoff Jun 15 at 13:06
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Hi there!! Geoff noise problems are very common and hard to correct sometimes specially if you have to increase the ISO too much, is very high recommended to use a tripod, a monopod should work sometimes, but is not a 100% as good as a tripod, but you know all that and like you said you can't use tripods there, I have not any other solution in my mind now but...

What I do is process the images using the same method that your digital camera use "the Black frame technique", but for that I use a tripod, because the trick is replace the hot pixels in your image for the black version ones of the black frame (using the same time exposure of your images for the black frame to replicate the same conditions), then I use a software that allows me to combine the Raw files into one replacing the hot pixels that are in the original image, that's basically the same thing that Jeffrey's article said, very useful information there by the way!, all this should work for night photography or very low lighting conditions,(not for day light photography) consider using softwares for Astronomy photography too (Iris software), most of then has a very effective noise reduction algorithms' built in.

Check out this link too. http://theory.uchicago.edu/~ejm/pix/20d/tests/noise/index.html

I just hope you can solve your issue. Nuurs.

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I have found Topaz De-Noise 4 to be remarkably successful in reducing noise. The D300 that I most often use was reputed to have good (low) noise when it came out, but is showing its age. The Pentax K-x I bought as a second camera does rather better. Now, with Topaz De-Noise I can use the D300 up to 800 or even 1,600 ISO with some confidence, and the K-x up to 3,200. This is about the limit, though, and sometimes the results are not too satisfactory. Topaz is definitely worth a trial.

Like you, I have problems with a monopod for indoor panoramas, mostly due to shaky hands these days. Probably an age-related factor. The higher ISO helps, Topaz helps, but I would also recommend you try a mini-mini tripod that screws into the foot of your monopod (if you are fortunate enough, as I am, to have one with a screw-threaded socket on the foot). Anyway, the idea is you use this very small tripod to provide some extra stability. It doesn't look anything like a conventional tripod, and if someone says "Hey, isn't that a TRIPOD!" you can say, "No, of course not. It isn't nearly big enough for one thing. It's a monopod base stabilizer."

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I recently upgraded to Topaz De-Noise 5, which is even better. V4 sometimes had problems with large panoramas and was rather slow. V5 is much faster and so far hasn't crashed with my largest panoramas. I strongly recommend the mini-tripod attachment, though. – Roger Williams Aug 11 at 2:32
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I've never actually tried it myself, but I have heard of folks having success with longer exposures and mono-pods by placing the tip of the mono-pod inside their shoe. It apparently makes the base more stable and therefore less motion. Again, never tried it myself, but it might be worth a try.

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